[RoundelM3]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

No problem....lots to keep track of with our cars!

So, the switch you are functioning is likely only affecting the throttle mapping. Do you feel the different responsiveness? In those cars with THP, the degree of change in the suspension/steering is also quite noticeable.

I think you're confusing dynamic handling with the driving mode selection. Dynamic handling adapts and stiffens or softens the suspension according to how you're driving. Without that package, you still get the change in suspension settings between the different modes, and you can select whether or not the Sport mode affects drivetrain, chassis, or both via iDrive. THP now includes DHP, and adds the bigger brakes and different wheels and tires. The M-Sport suspension is already stiffer than the base/normal suspension.

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by roundel335

I think you're confusing dynamic handling with the driving mode selection. Dynamic handling adapts and stiffens or softens the suspension according to how you're driving. Without that package, you still get the change in suspension settings between the different modes, and you can select whether or not the Sport mode affects drivetrain, chassis, or both via iDrive. THP now includes DHP, and adds the bigger brakes and different wheels and tires. The M-Sport suspension is already stiffer than the base/normal suspension.

Yes, I probably am confused as the nomenclature has grown. Are you saying that the DHP is what is now called MAdaptive suspension within THP? When I've looked at THP since 2015, I have not seen DHP as a component.

THP allows coordinated changes to powertrain driving mode and accompanying suspension/steering setting. It is my understanding that the ability to change was limited to the powertrain driving mode only in cars without MAdaptive?? Oherwise, what is the difference in suspension capability?

How much of this do I have incorrectly?

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by pikcachu

The drive move button still affects the steering weighting... just not the shock stiffness...

Ah, just saw your note on the prior page....thank you...that helps make sense of it. This would go along with DHP becoming MAdaptive and part of THP since 2015?

[burf]

Does anyone know how much (spirited) driving is needed before one can see a change in the handling? I mean for cars equipped with Dynamic handling. I have a 2017 230 with m performance. I currently find the steering feel very good but the steering a bit light. I came from a 2010 E92 bmw 335 which had more power but less steering feel.

Aside from the lightness of the steering, the 230 is a better handler than the 335 I had.

[chief1richard]

Originally Posted by bensanford

I have ordered a 2018 m230i with the M-sport package. I told the dealer that I didn't want the run-flat tires, and he is saying that non run-flat tires are only available if I add the track handling package.

It is a bit unclear if this is the case in the currently available ordering guide, but my question is whether the other things in the track package (adaptive suspension, brakes, variable ratio steering, etc) are worth having. Since I am ordering M-sport, this would be a $1700 upgrade.

I will likely not take this car to the track - otherwise I would be ordering the m240.

I own a 228 track package with M Sport. For the $1700 it is a bargain. MPSS tires are a no brainer over run flats.. Adaptive suspension is awesome. Brakes very good. I almost always drive in Sport Plus because of the incredible handling/steering. I have tracked my car 5 times at Palmer Motor Sports Speedway. Nothing like taking your car out on the track and seeing what it can do. It is a really impressive vehicle. I have a new M-2 coming in a few weeks and wish they were available when I ordered the 228 TP. I can honestly say I am going to miss this vehicle, as I am trading it in. My one wish for the M2 would be for it to have the incredible Adaptive Suspension.

[ramy_who]

If you can get both packages, assuming that money is not an issue, that would be nice. However if had to pick one I'd go for MSport. Front bumper looks much better than non-MSport IMO, and M Sport Suspension will have you exiting highways at ridiculous speeds. It's very stiff and gives you a lot of confidence. Now don't get me wrong, I wish I got THP myself because adaptive suspension is nice and if you decide to get Dinan Shockware down the road the car needs to have adaptive suspension. I think bigger brakes in THP would be nice too... I hate my brakes, never got used to them even though I've had the car for more than a year, so I'm assuming the blue Msport brakes would be better.

Just my two cents.

[CAMOETO]

Originally Posted by 2addict

If you can get both packages, assuming that money is not an issue, that would be nice. However if had to pick one I'd go for MSport. Front bumper looks much better than non-MSport IMO, and M Sport Suspension will have you exiting highways at ridiculous speeds. It's very stiff and gives you a lot of confidence. Now don't get me wrong, I wish I got THP myself because adaptive suspension is nice and if you decide to get Dinan Shockware down the road the car needs to have adaptive suspension. I think bigger brakes in THP would be nice too... I hate my brakes, never got used to them even though I've had the car for more than a year, so I'm assuming the blue Msport brakes would be better.

Just my two cents.

I would go the other way on this one. If just getting one of the two, I would get the track handling packages. The only thing the M-Sport trim gives you on top of the track handling package is different bumpers and steering wheel. All the things that affect driving - adaptive suspension, m-sport brakes, and staggered MPSS tires are in the track handling package.

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by CAMOETO

I would go the other way on this one. If just getting one of the two, I would get the track handling packages. The only thing the M-Sport trim gives you on top of the track handling package is different bumpers and steering wheel. All the things that affect driving - adaptive suspension, m-sport brakes, and staggered MPSS tires are in the track handling package.

Completely agree.

[Miata13]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

Completely agree.

But boy..that M-Sport steering wheel is sweet! Had that one on our former F31 Sportwagon and loved it....wonder if it can be added separately???

[aozer]

Originally Posted by CAMOETO

I would go the other way on this one. If just getting one of the two, I would get the track handling packages. The only thing the M-Sport trim gives you on top of the track handling package is different bumpers and steering wheel. All the things that affect driving - adaptive suspension, m-sport brakes, and staggered MPSS tires are in the track handling package.

And the sport seats which are pretty great

[BarryJI]

I wanted to make my 228i M-Sport as sharp a version of itself as it could possibly be -- within reason -- as a performance enthusiast's car. This made the THP completely indispensable to me and I have never regretted it, not just because it really wakes the car up (especially with engine/suspension tunes) but it functions as a necessary platform for certain desirable suspension modifications.

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by Miata13

But boy..that M-Sport steering wheel is sweet! Had that one on our former F31 Sportwagon and loved it....wonder if it can be added separately???

I believe it can, but I also understand you lose the heated wheel function if you had ordered that originally.

Originally Posted by aozer

And the sport seats which are pretty great

Those were in the car anyway, without MSport.

[ralawren]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

I believe it can, but I also understand you lose the heated wheel function if you had ordered that originally.

Those were in the car anyway, without MSport.

Talk to your dealer about the heated steering wheel. I have a 2015 228i with Cold Weather Pkg (heated steering wheel) and MSport/THP. This means I have the MSport Steering Wheel.

[Sportstick]

Originally Posted by ralawren

Talk to your dealer about the heated steering wheel. I have a 2015 228i with Cold Weather Pkg (heated steering wheel) and MSport/THP. This means I have the MSport Steering Wheel.

Yes, I do as well have 228i with CWP with heated steering wheel but not with MSport as original equipment. The issue, as explained to me, is that installing the MSport wheel as an aftermarket part causes the heating function not to work. But by all means, do ask the dealer again!

[keylime503]

Originally Posted by Sportstick

Those were in the car anyway, without MSport.

Making the sport seats standard is a new thing since 2016. Pre-2016, ZSP or ZMP was a must just to get the sport seats.

[damascus]

* 3 year old thread revival!

I am looking at a 2017 230i M-sport. It is optioned with 2VL Variable sport steering as a stand alone option... not part of the ZTR Track Handling Package.

I've looked at the 2017 MY pricing and ordering guides and I do not see 2VL as a stand alone option. Am I missing something? Is this a weird build?

Thanks!

[SOLOMEK]

Originally Posted by bensanford

I have ordered a 2018 m230i with the M-sport package. I told the dealer that I didn't want the run-flat tires, and he is saying that non run-flat tires are only available if I add the track handling package.

It is a bit unclear if this is the case in the currently available ordering guide, but my question is whether the other things in the track package (adaptive suspension, brakes, variable ratio steering, etc) are worth having. Since I am ordering M-sport, this would be a $1700 upgrade.

I will likely not take this car to the track - otherwise I would be ordering the m240.

Major congrats for your purchase.

So with all the talk about suspensions and cosmetics, what's holding you back on the engine part of it? Seems like you are investing in all these packages that will bring the cost to a near M240i. No?

[SOLOMEK]

Originally Posted by SOLOMEK

Major congrats for your purchase.

So with all the talk about suspensions and cosmetics, what's holding you back on the engine part of it? Seems like you are investing in all these packages that will bring the cost to a near M240i. No?

:read thethread:

Should have paid more attention... sorry all.

Old thread...

[JordanB]

I just bought a 2018 230i and am having trouble determining whether it has the track handling package. Specifically:

1. Has 18” wheels (style 384) which I believe are supposed to come with the track handling package
2. Has grey brakes, not blue with the m logo
3. Under configure sport settings, shows chassis adjustment as well as drivetrain.

Would appreciate any advice. Know there are many forums on this, but I have been having trouble getting to a clear answer. I haven’t driven another 230i so don’t have a comparison. Thanks in advance.

[sandrik93]

Originally Posted by JordanB

I just bought a 2018 230i and am having trouble determining whether it has the track handling package. Specifically:

1. Has 18” wheels (style 384) which I believe are supposed to come with the track handling package
2. Has grey brakes, not blue with the m logo
3. Under configure sport settings, shows chassis adjustment as well as drivetrain.

Would appreciate any advice. Know there are many forums on this, but I have been having trouble getting to a clear answer. I haven’t driven another 230i so don’t have a comparison. Thanks in advance.

THP comes with the blue m sport brakes vs grey ones. You can also decode your vin number at mdecoder.com and see all the options/packages your car is equipped with.

[keylime503]

Originally Posted by JordanB

I just bought a 2018 230i and am having trouble determining whether it has the track handling package. Specifically:

1. Has 18” wheels (style 384) which I believe are supposed to come with the track handling package
2. Has grey brakes, not blue with the m logo
3. Under configure sport settings, shows chassis adjustment as well as drivetrain.

Would appreciate any advice. Know there are many forums on this, but I have been having trouble getting to a clear answer. I haven’t driven another 230i so don’t have a comparison. Thanks in advance.

I believe the iDrive software for configuring sport settings is the same regardless of if you have adaptive suspension or not. So on a base car, you can still configure sport chassis but it really only makes the steering feel heavier.

[JordanB]

Originally Posted by keylime503

I believe the iDrive software for configuring sport settings is the same regardless of if you have adaptive suspension or not. So on a base car, you can still configure sport chassis but it really only makes the steering feel heavier.

Thank you. Looks like the prior owner must have changed the wheels to the 384 as they were not listed in the vin decoder.