Auto Express Review: Is M235i the new E36 M3?

creepy coupe · 03-12-2014, 05:57 AM

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dmboone25 · 03-12-2014, 03:40 PM

Good review - the UK guys seem to do well at this.

xbook · 03-13-2014, 06:10 PM

Yes, yes it is...

BenchRacerYo · 03-14-2014, 04:25 PM

I wouldn't know what the real E36 M3 is like considering we got the underpowered version.

Sonic RR · 03-14-2014, 04:27 PM

This car is bigger and heavier than the 1series. It is no e36 m3

MDIVISION · 03-14-2014, 04:34 PM

SAME HP AS E36 M3????
Who are these Jackoffs doing these reviews?

tylerwillingham · 03-14-2014, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mloyalty

SAME HP AS E36 M3????
Who are these Jackoffs doing these reviews?

Are you familiar with the S50B32?

Jadar · 03-14-2014, 04:41 PM

This is what happens when you slap an M badge on everything tied in with a blue and white roundel...smh

Mahzari · 03-14-2014, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mloyalty

SAME HP AS E36 M3????
Who are these Jackoffs doing these reviews?

Euro E36 M3. Look into it.

MDIVISION · 03-14-2014, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahzari

Euro E36 M3. Look into it.

He didn't say Euro. He is also off in 0-60 by 0.6 second

MDIVISION · 03-14-2014, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tylerwillingham

Are you familiar with the S50B32?

Yes but that wasn't for the US. I guess he is talking only to european viewers.

///Mangler · 03-14-2014, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mloyalty

SAME HP AS E36 M3????
Who are these Jackoffs doing these reviews?

S50B32 not S52B32. Two totally different engines.

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MDIVISION · 03-14-2014, 04:47 PM

When I drove this car it pretty much felt like my 135is except the steering feel was different. Also it felt a bit softer than the is.

doublevanosrc · 03-14-2014, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mloyalty

When I drove this car it pretty much felt like my 135is except the steering feel was different. Also it felt a bit softer than the is.

Nice to finally see a 1 Series owner compare the 2.

Would you say the 135is feels more BMWish?

stefan · 03-14-2014, 05:08 PM

The N55 really makes comparison almost impossible. Relating to the E36 seems like only dimension based thing. The E36 is lower and not as tall overall. You sit lower and tighter and the M3 had proper seats and a proper NA engine and stock LSD.

One thing that the E36 does really well is steering feel. It's so connected. Anyone drawing comparisons should drive an E36 again to remember how good it is.

Also, I question the journalistic credibility of anyone suggesting a turbo engine "doesn't feel" like a turbo. I should also add, to M's credit entirely, that the S50B32 made similar HP on 1atm. No forced induction and similar displacement.

JB3CK24 · 03-14-2014, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mloyalty

SAME HP AS E36 M3????
Who are these Jackoffs doing these reviews?

Euro s50b32 had 321 bhp..

US s52 had "240"... I owned 2 and they were both around 255 crank on a dyno.

bungo · 03-14-2014, 05:26 PM

Seriously

Dr.Sommer · 03-14-2014, 05:38 PM

E36 looks soo much better...
...Forever

MDIVISION · 03-14-2014, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doublevanosrc

Nice to finally see a 1 Series owner compare the 2.

Would you say the 135is feels more BMWish?

No

MDIVISION · 03-14-2014, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Sommer

E36 looks soo much better...
...Forever

No doubt, I belive it's still the best handling M3. Let's see what the F80s will be like

BlackJetE90 · 03-14-2014, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mloyalty

Yes but that wasn't for the US. I guess he is talking only to european viewers.

You don't have to guess anything. He is in the UK and Auto Express is a UK publication.

M3 Adjuster · 03-14-2014, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mloyalty

No doubt, I belive it's still the best handling M3. Let's see what the F80s will be like

Surely you jest......

Each iteration of the 3 series has had a better suspension than the previous version, allowing for more grip.

E21 < E30 < E36 < E46 < E90 < F30

what car do you think Bimmerworld and Turner motorsport will run this year? It won't be an F30 just because it's NEW...... but because their testing has shown that the chassis and suspension are better.

In the case of the E46.... it did take a few years of development getting weight out of the chassis... and TMS ran the E36 325s for a little longer... but clearly the E46 325s outpaced the E36 325s they ran in Speed World Challenge etc

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MDIVISION Major 242 Rep 1,181 Posts Drives: 2015 M3 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Silicon Valley iTrader: (1)	When I drove this car it pretty much felt like my 135is except the steering feel was different. Also it felt a bit softer than the is. __________________ 2002 E46 M3 Coupe.. SOLD 2011 BMW 1M Coupe SOLD 2013 BMW M3 Coupe SOLD 2014 BMW 335i MPPK SOLD 2015 M3 SOLD
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stefan Brigadier General 807 Rep 3,149 Posts Drives: M2 LCI Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Calgary iTrader: (2) Garage List 2018 BMW M2 [5.00] 2016 BMW X1 [0.00]	The N55 really makes comparison almost impossible. Relating to the E36 seems like only dimension based thing. The E36 is lower and not as tall overall. You sit lower and tighter and the M3 had proper seats and a proper NA engine and stock LSD. One thing that the E36 does really well is steering feel. It's so connected. Anyone drawing comparisons should drive an E36 again to remember how good it is. Also, I question the journalistic credibility of anyone suggesting a turbo engine "doesn't feel" like a turbo. I should also add, to M's credit entirely, that the S50B32 made similar HP on 1atm. No forced induction and similar displacement. __________________ ///M Power Last edited by stefan; 03-14-2014 at 05:13 PM. Reason: power figures
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