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01-20-2014, 03:11 PM | #23 | |
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Sam, have you ever driven a Z4M or have any comments on how it would compare to the M235i? Not just in steering but overall. |
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01-20-2014, 03:40 PM | #24 |
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Thanks for the informative review Sam.
As someone who's also had some time behind the wheel of an FRS I'd be interested in hearing some more comparisons between that and the 2 in terms of ride and handling. |
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01-20-2014, 03:42 PM | #25 |
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Sam, re the turbo comment you did say "twin scroll" and not "twin turbo" as Wakka incorrectly noted so no worries.
I, like StealYourFace and BlackJetE90 am considering a lighter 228 vs the 235. I'm thinking no moonroof and manual seats which is almost another 90 lbs lighter and adding more M Performance bits.... Is it true that the M Performance suspension eliminates the active suspension? |
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A fairly thorough analysis that leaves me confident that I was smart to have recently extended my warranty on my 2010 135i Msport coupe with M Performance Power Kit.
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01-20-2014, 05:21 PM | #28 |
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If the EPS system in my 991 can feel the way it feels then I am sure BMW can do the same thing... Drive a 991 to see IMHO the best EPS syst in the industry
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Nice review.
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01-20-2014, 06:34 PM | #31 | |
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Read my post HERE for more info on how they work. Long story short, you can replace the adaptive suspension dampers with coil-overs and make whatever modifications you want to the car just like normal. But if you want KEEP the adaptive function, you're better off leaving the whole system stock, as changes to other parts in the system can confuse the suspension ECU. Kind of like making major engine mods without a tune, except at the moment, there's no "tune" for adaptive suspensions (except Dinan's shockware for the F10). |
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01-20-2014, 06:39 PM | #32 | |
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A dealer installed or aftermarket retrofit of an OEM quality adaptive system would cost thousands of dollars. |
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01-20-2014, 06:44 PM | #33 |
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No, the M235i likely DOES have a different steering system than the M135i. At the very least, it will have an updated calibration, which can make a HUGE difference itself.
Every version is going to have its own steering calibration . . . the 228i, 235i, Xdrives, covnertibles, grand coupes, etc. will all have their own cal, and The engineers are constantly learning and building upon their experience with each model. That's why, as someone said, the 320i has slightly better steering than the 335i. |
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01-20-2014, 06:51 PM | #34 |
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Not true. 1st, tuning is not "simple." Second, steering feel is nearly 100% a result of tuning. There's no major deficiency with the F30 or any other modern BMW platform that tuning won't fix. But the F30 brought a whole new philosophy with it, along with a switch to EPS and some other new chassis bits, and unfortunately they missed the mark a bit with with the first version.
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Great review. The criticisms were put diplomatically - not brutally - but they're there. You have to read between the lines. The fact that it wasn't a glowing review speaks volumes.
Waiting for the M2.
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Sounds like the M235 is a great successor to the 135, and dare I say, the 1 'M' Coupe. However, it certainly feels like there's space for an M2. A car without compromise that offers new M enthusiasts the same thing the M3 offered up until the e9x series moved up market.
Whether the M2 will be the answer, or some variant of Mini, remains to be seen. |
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I like the profile of the M235 in this pic really a lot
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The bonnet is elongated in that shot because of the spherical distortion of the camera lens.
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My thoughts exactly
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