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03-22-2013, 12:53 PM | #45 |
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I am hoping that BMW makes more than about 5 of the M2, which is what it seemed like with the 1M. It was hard to find one, at least for me here in the US.
It's really funny that they say the 1M was the "affordable M car, designed to get people exposed to the M brand" and then they make enough cars that only those willing to pay the huge markup can get one. We shall see...
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03-22-2013, 02:30 PM | #46 |
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I like this render better.
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not exactly spacious
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My concern is: given the same HP target and the same technology, wouldn't the 4 cylinder always have more turbo lag than a 6 cylinder?
Also, do we expect the 2er GC non M to be released after the M2 coupe? And then get the M2 GC after that still? |
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03-22-2013, 03:46 PM | #51 | |
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The 2 Series Gran Coupe will most likely hit the market before the M2 does in any form. |
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03-22-2013, 03:54 PM | #52 | |
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Ah, thanks for clearing that up. |
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I truly miss the days when selections are simple. But selections are also good! Oh the irony.
Is BMW just re-using the long wheel base platform from the China market for the 6 series grand coupe? Or vice versa? Larger volume production with shared parts are always good. Less problem and improvements needed but it's a little over the hill if you ask me. Unless BMW has some super new production planning system that is very efficient. I think it's gonna be a disaster in the long run. After all man still does a lot of wiring and assembly. Parts can be mistaken and bespoke parts would mean extra cost for the customers.
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03-23-2013, 05:28 AM | #57 |
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So there's a 1 series sedan and there's a 2 series grand coupe. Both will have 4 doors and both will be designated in the sport compact sedan segment..BMW has one of the most confusing production lines.My head hurts, that's about the only thing that's obvious.
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03-23-2013, 09:24 AM | #58 |
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The 1er Sedan will be based upon the BMW compact series matrix shared with the MINI. It is not based on the F20. 2er Gran Coupe will be based on the imminent BMW 2er.
The idea follows the larger car matrix which is modular that existing concepts can be spun off using a central piece which can then be lengthened or shortened with added modular parts to accommodate each vehicle.
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03-23-2013, 11:58 AM | #59 |
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I have to disagree. I find BMWs naming system extremely intuitive. And now that they're breaking off the coupes into the 2 and 4 series, the whole range follows the same conventions. BMW has the most predictability in their nomenclature of any manufacturer, and once the rest of the known Fxx products in the pipeline arrive, they'll have the most complete model lineup as well.
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So basically there won't be a 1er sedan based on the F20. When they make that car, it will be FWD and my guess is that it won't come to the US.
If you want a compact 4 door with RWD, then it's the 2er GC Fine by me !! |
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I agree. Very intuitive.
It's just that the GT models are redundant and useless, other than that very complete and cool lineup it's shaping up to be. I for one love the idea of the GC models, best of all worlds in one vehicle and the 2er GC should be priced within reach ! |
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I hope it looks like this rendering or I will be buying a 3 series sedan.
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And also offer a new concept in gaining new customers to the BMW brand positioning the Active Tourer as an exciting lifestyle vehicle. This is an advantage because Mercedes do not offer the B-Klasse even though their NA division is crying out for it. A four door 1er will follow but so will the 2er Gran Coupe. The North American debut of the Active Tourer Concept will be a great deal for BMW North America because the public will give the defining decision when it will be displayed at New York next week. It's already arrived straight from Geneva.
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[QUOTE=mkoesel;13687323]... the new unified inline architecture...
QUOTE] Will all of the engines, even M ones, necessarily have the 0.5ltr./cyl displacement characteristic of the new architecture or can we expect, for example, a 2.2ltrs. 4 in the M2ers and a 3.3ltrs. 6 in the M3ers(equating to 0.55ltr/cyl.) Is it merely coincidental that these displacement figures have been "thrown around" on this board? |
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