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      02-13-2013, 08:08 PM   #23
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I like :-D the new 2 will look gorgeous !!!
not mean to pick on your comment, but how do you know? If anything it seems disproportional - long hood and short the rest of the car. has there been any more revealing or concept images released?
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      02-13-2013, 08:52 PM   #24
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2 series is a enthusiast car so I understand not having 235i.
People who want a BMW will have a chance to buy 228i.
Enthusiasts that want a performance car will buy M235i.

I like the strategy and the nomenclature.. BMW wants to make M cars more race track oriented and MPA (M Performance Automobiles) will be great fun cars but daily driving friendly which current M cars seem to be.

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      02-13-2013, 09:53 PM   #25
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Somebody please confirm M2 for US.
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      02-13-2013, 10:04 PM   #26
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Somebody please confirm M2 for US.
Are you serious?

That would be suicidal.

It's a matter of time.
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      02-13-2013, 11:05 PM   #27
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      02-13-2013, 11:52 PM   #28
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I can't wait to see the final product...hopefully w/shadowline trim.
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      02-14-2013, 01:43 AM   #29
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Somebody please confirm M2 for US.
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      02-14-2013, 03:59 AM   #30
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      02-14-2013, 10:49 AM   #31
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It's between this and the A3(hopefully S3) Sportback for me.

No M235i DCT, no buy.
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      02-14-2013, 11:01 AM   #32
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this car could bring me back to BMW...
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      02-14-2013, 01:11 PM   #33
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No M235i DCT, no buy.
Dumb. What is there better about a 7DCT compared to a 8AUT?
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Will Europe get the N20 in 228i(241hp) flavour or 225i (218hp)?
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      02-14-2013, 01:57 PM   #35
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Will Europe get the N20 in 228i(241hp) flavour or 225i (218hp)?
Seems that it may only be 225i.

See the VIN list search results @ http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=799090
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      02-14-2013, 02:18 PM   #36
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Seems that it may only be 225i.

See the VIN list search results @ http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=799090
thanks, if that's the case i'll get the m235i.

I did see that thread but it contrasts with the first post in this thread which says that the m235i and 228i will be joined in Europe by the 220i, 218d, 220d and 225d. (no mention is made of 225i).

I've been following these forums for years now and i am aware of how much you have been contributing. Accordingly, when i saw the above inconsistency i had to ask the question as my next car will most probably be the 2er.
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      02-14-2013, 02:51 PM   #37
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Good news on the M235 and M2 coming....Hopefully BMW sticks with he 6cyl turbo for the M2 at least but either a 4 or 6 i am sure both will kick and a MUST 6M/T option....i prefer the 6....Also any mention of the steering???? Again i hope the leave it hydrolic like the 1M and 135i or like the M3 that is adjustable...
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      02-14-2013, 03:01 PM   #38
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M235i xdrive Can't wait! So happy that I didn't pull the trigger on an F30.
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      02-14-2013, 03:02 PM   #39
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thanks, if that's the case i'll get the m235i.

I did see that thread but it contrasts with the first post in this thread which says that the m235i and 228i will be joined in Europe by the 220i, 218d, 220d and 225d. (no mention is made of 225i).

I've been following these forums for years now and i am aware of how much you have been contributing. Accordingly, when i saw the above inconsistency i had to ask the question as my next car will most probably be the 2er.
Sorry about that, I left out the 225i inadvertently. It's now been added. Thanks for the notice.
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      02-14-2013, 03:44 PM   #40
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Sorry about that, I left out the 225i inadvertently. It's now been added. Thanks for the notice.
Cheers and keep it up
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      02-14-2013, 03:58 PM   #41
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Dumb. What is there better about a 7DCT compared to a 8AUT?
Driving feel- I've have not enjoyed any of the ZF 8speed units that I've been in- they don't seem anywhere near as smooth or fast as the dual clutch. Not saying the ZF unit is bad, but it feels like a normal automatic for me, not a replacement for the dual clutch.

That being said, maybe over there in Germany you may be having a better experience with it, but with what's available here in the US: I'll take a DCT, please.
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      02-14-2013, 04:06 PM   #42
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Also auto = drivetrain loss (torque converter)
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      02-14-2013, 06:23 PM   #43
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Does anyone know if an M235i xDrive 6MT is coming to Canada? If so, that would be the perfect car and I'd hold off on the 4 series.
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      02-15-2013, 01:54 AM   #44
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Driving feel- I've have not enjoyed any of the ZF 8speed units that I've been in- they don't seem anywhere near as smooth or fast as the dual clutch. Not saying the ZF unit is bad, but it feels like a normal automatic for me, not a replacement for the dual clutch.

That being said, maybe over there in Germany you may be having a better experience with it, but with what's available here in the US: I'll take a DCT, please.
BMW doesn't offer DCT for AG cars anymore (current Z4 E89 and 1 Series E82 are last of their kind). Now AG car only have 8AUT, or the optional sport version, which is as good, if not better than DCT. DCT is only reserved for M cars. If you want DCT you'll have to get the M2, and not the M235i. But then you might not like the 4 banger of the M2.
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