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      11-15-2016, 01:15 AM   #73
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Originally Posted by Xiaoxi View Post
Those are not even close to enough mileage to begin gauging reliability. You'd have to cross the 100,000mi threshold to start judging.

A Toyota Camry, for example, can easily get to 170-180k with basic maintenance.

Yes, a Camry and an M235i are in different leagues, but it's baffling to me that some people consider reliability to be 20-50k mi from new without any problems before going to another car in 2-3 years. That's barely scratching the surface in wear.

Most people do not have that luxury. Most people are driving 80k-200k mile single cars for 8-12 years. Ask the average car buyer how impressed they'd be that our BMW has lasted an amazing 28,000 km.
Realistically, most of the people who buy $35K-$55K cars new (especially "toy" cars like a 2-series) don't keep them more than 3-4 years - they don't have to. We simply are not average car buyers, FWIW.

It's not possible to get 100K mile data out of this generation of BMWs for the simple reason that they haven't been around long enough. BUT, comparing the first three years of this generation to the first three years of the previous generation, BMW has made simply stunning leaps in initial quality, and that certainly bodes well for how the cars will age. The first few years of the e9x and e8x were pretty much nightmares, especially the turbo cars.

My simple by comparison lightly optioned e91 wagon had several warranty issues, and had to be towed to the dealer once in it's first year or two on the road (and no issues since). My M235i has been perfect. No issues of any kind in 18mo/12K despite being a far more complex car.

I don't doubt that my BMWs will need little more than "routine maintenance" in 170K either - but there is more to maintain on a more sophisticated car.
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