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      12-14-2017, 07:25 PM   #175
Y0tsuya
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Drives: 2015 M235i 6MT, 2016 340i 8AT
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Originally Posted by BarryJI View Post
Yeah at least I don't overexert myself performing mental gymnastics trying play downplay the extra 35% power and trumpeting the minor difference in weight, and saying intellectually dishonest tripe like: "numbers are no measure of quality. All they ever set out to measure is capability. You are using data to quantify a purely subjective value."

As for performance and handling, let's do this by the numbers shall we?

HP: 335 vs 248, M240i wins by 35%
Torque: 369 vs 259, M240i wins by 43%
Curb Weight MT: 3499 vs 3342, 230i wins by 5%
Balance (MT): 52.4/47.6, 4.8% diff vs 50.1/49.9, 0.2% diff, 230i wins by 5%
Skidpad: I've seen tests where the M230i edges out the M240i by maybe 2%, so 230i wins by 2%.

These are what I can think of and it appears the M240i is an overwhelming win.

Plus when you option the 230i with M-sport + THP, which is already on the M240i, the difference in price is only $4K. I want to argue the M240i is also the better value, but the lower fuel economy makes it kind of a wash money-wise.

Now onto this "Quality" thing you keep bringing up. Handling is a part of it which is already covered above. I'd also submit that the I-6 is smoother and sounds so much better than the 4.

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Originally Posted by BarryJI View Post
But Y0t will be here in a minute, lecturing us aggressively about "metrics" and how absolutely right he is about something that is absolutely self-evident, at least to him, if almost nobody else.
Others are just more diplomatic than I am. Also the 328i/330i outsells the M235i/M240i by a wide margin so you'd see more of it on the track, and proves nothing.
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