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      08-25-2014, 10:33 AM   #124
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Drives: BMW 135is
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Originally Posted by bernstem View Post
The M235 is 3505 lbs. with a manual. The Mustang is 3705 lbs. in GT trim with a manual. That is a 200 lb. difference.

Maybe you were thinking of getting the Mustang with the 2.3 liter, 4 cylinder eco-boost. That model is just a touch heavier than the M235 at 3532 lbs with a manual.
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That is because it comes will a spare tire and jack... I really don't think a GT350 will come with those, plus CF drive shafts are cheap in the Mustang world, so expect other things to drop the GT35o's weight.. (when comparing too the M2)

Or when they put in a v6 Turbo & produce +450ft-lbs.. in a SVT, it will be as light as a 2-series.




Secondly, I wasn't comparing the M235i to the GT (why?) I would compare it to the EB twin-scroll 2.3 that produces nearly the same HP (310hp/320tq) as the M235i (320hp/330tq) ..

Manual:
Mustang 3,532 lbs
BMW 3,502 lbs

Auto:
Mustang 3,524 lbs
BMW 3,535 lbs



There is no reason to compare the M235i to the Mustang GT, that is a much more performance orientated car and meant for the likes of M4. Nothing in the 2-series arsenal allows for it to take on +100hp cars w/lsd like the GT.

Coincidentally, the 135is/235is (BMW's) are not about HP, but about how the car functions and handles... that is why many of us are waiting for that refined feel in the M2, and how it corners, as thrust is secondary concern.

The reason so many are interested in cross shopping the M2 with the new Mustang is because of the track-oriented engineering in both. I bet both will be within 125lbs of each other.. but the stang has a longer wheelbase and might be wider, so... we wait.

I wonder how big of tires the M2 will be able to manage..
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