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Originally Posted by PvsNP
I never track my cars.
The steering in M235i is extremely numb. I'd say it's somewhat stiffer than a 328, but not as good as a 335. It's electrical all the way and it's very obvious that it's electrical. There is an obvious lag that you feel driving the car, it just does not feel natural. If the new M3/M4 has the same steering, I'm going to say the same thing. My M3 and M5 do not have this, they are both hydraulic.
Other than that, this car has the 5 year old N55 in it, nothing new really. It's a powerful engine - but it doesn't feel extraordinary. Is it a great car? Sure it is, but who is it for? Probably for people who can't afford a 120k M6 or a 80k M4. The interior also does not feel luxurious. Not enough leather and a lot of cheap plastic. Small screen and so on.
What I'm trying to say is, BMW charges a hefty price tag for a car that's really a bins car. There is nothing special about it, it's all expected. N55 from 335, EPS from 335, etc, yes it will obviously be fast on paper, but does it feel like that raw hard BMW Sports car? It does not. People who buy this car are the kind of people who want to say they are driving a BMW that is fast, you are basically buying the brand name at a discount and you are paying the price for it.
I will also say that I'd take the E46 M3 any day over this car, no matter what the numbers say on paper.
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And you follow my post with this tripe? You are exactly the kind of person I am talking about. Someone that says 'this car is because you can't afford M blah or M blah'. Or better yet, completely misses that the e9x was the last generation fitted with hydraulic steering. But fuck it, let me continue, because you capstone your post with 'I'd take an e46 over this anyday'. How brave. You and every 'purist'....
Let me list my pedigree. I don't set it as my quote for every post because that's what douchebags do, but I'll meet you in the middle-
E36 M3
E46 M3
E90 M3
F???
Frankly, I stepped out of my 'purist' car and was amazed at what BMW had done with the lowly M235. While I love my Ms, and thoroughly abuse them on open track days, I realized just how brilliant the M235 is. At its price, there is no equal. I expect any comparisons to be looking upmarket for competition. But I'm not insecure enough to come into this forum and whine about how 'inferior' the M235 is to the M brand. It isn't. It fits right where it is. Anyone buying this car, IMO, is getting a great M experience at a bargain price.
But then again, you'd have no idea what the point of an M car is since you don't track your cars. So what do you do with them? Daily commute with the occasional WOT while you pass someone that just will not get out of the left lane? Yes, you are exactly what the M brand has become. A joke.