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      10-17-2022, 01:56 AM   #50
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Originally Posted by David.m View Post
so where is the line drawn with weight? also don't know that we can simply compare lap times without factoring in tyres (both general tyre development & specific oem spec'd tyres).
There is no line, and we can compare them with tires as delivered. A Nissan GT-R, Taycan Turbo S, CT5-V, M5 CS etc. wipe the floor with an M2 on track regarding lap times, but weigh more. No one is going to put 10 year old PSS on their new car to make it "fair" in your book.

I don't know what you're after here, but I can simply say that if you go to the dealer and buy a G87 and compare it with a stock F87 comp, it's going to be faster in all ways. This has always been the case. So yeah, it's heavier, but it's compensated for. You don't have to like it, and subjectively it may fall short, but arguing that because the car is 3800 lbs it can't be higher performance is absurd.

Your same logic would dictate that the M2 is already a poor performance car because it's 3500-3600 lbs. We should all be driving Miatas or Lotuses.
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