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      06-01-2016, 07:16 PM   #90
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Originally Posted by nvmaddog View Post
I bet all of those Ferrari drivers really wished they drove Miata's instead, sure would be better to have a few extra inches of head room.
Foolish argument, childish really.

I drove both the M235i and the 228i extensively. I realised that, stock, they both understeer, there was way too much body roll in all axes, and this was affecting the way the power was being put down on the road and the effect of the cars' output. This was much more noticeable in the bigger, heavier 235 but also an issue for the 228. I talked to my tuners; the consensus was that a properly modified 228 is a better car than a stock 235 (note, this was their opinion, albeit one with which I concur) and that for less than the difference in price between the two cars stock, I could mod the 228's suspension and tune the engine to the point at which it would handle much better, have livelier driving dynamics and be quicker than a stock 235 for the kind of driving I do, which involves a lot of canyon roads and stop-start city driving.

Note my use of italics above. These are to emphasize that, as I pointed out before, any judgement on which is the better car is subjective and must be qualified as such instead of presented as incontrovertible fact. If I wanted the car with more muscle, for example if I did more long-distance highway driving, of course the 235 would be more appropriate (but not better), just as it would be on the autobahn. Those of you who are presenting the M235i as indisputably the better car are engaging in a very crude and unhelpful form of debased, saloon-bar "logic" that could not pass muster in a half-decent college environment, let alone among adults.

In four years I will move from the modded 228 to an M2. I hope I will not be so defensive, insecure or ignorant to be on here all day beating my chest about having a "better" car than the 235. It's bad manners and generates more heat than light.
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