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Originally Posted by bladeomatic
Frankly, the original cost of *anything* from 2008 is not pertinent…inflation or otherwise.
It's market baby…supply and demand. If Subaru gets a nicer, more civilized approach on their WRX and removes that piano bench from the trunk, they could upend this entire segment with a much lower price.
Just read an article (Car and Driver?) that said the "base" price of the m4 was going to be about $65k. Doing a little deductive reasoning here….
It seems to me that BMW likes to stagger the tiers/prices of their cars such that if you fully load a model, it rises over the base cost of the next higher model. (see 328 vs 335). Try this out on the their website and see. This is intended to get folks to notice how close they are to a slightly superior car and just bite the bullet, and move up a notch.
I think M cars are put (intentionally) a bit further out of reach from their non-M brethren (Fully twisted 335i is around $61k, base m4 is supposed to start around $65k).
It also seems to me that if you max out the options on many models, it can add about 20-30% to the base cost.
Example: M235i base: $43.1k, Loaded: $53.5, (~20%). Base vs. loaded 335i is about 30%.
That said, in order for an M2 to be slightly over the max of an M235i (cuz it's an M) and yet still have plenty of option room before it kisses against the base of an M3/4, I would guess that it will start with a base near $55k and option up over $65k.
Any takers?
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Agree with everything you said except the M3 is starting at $62k and you're forgetting the M235i will stop production when M2 is around. There will be a regular 235i that should cost less. Maybe base around $41k? (I believe the 135i was around $40k).
Using your logic, with the M3 at $62k base, a fully loaded M2 would be no higher than $61k. Subtract the $10k in upgrades, that gives you $51k. It makes sense if you look at it from a marketing standpoint which is the number 1 thing that people here are overlooking.
These numbers would target every market:
228i - $32k-$42k
235i - $41k-$51k
M2 - $51k-$61k
M3/4 - $63-$80K
M5 - +$92K
M235i is a car that is between the potential 235i (135i) and M2.