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Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls
1. S3 likes to break it's tail on the track. What? and BMW's don't?
2. High Revving V8 Engines. Does BMW not have high revving V8s? Look at the AMG engines that were used in the current generation, those are already stated to be gone next-gen. Everyone is downsizing. It's so easy to take an engine (from Lamborghini), tweak it and throw it in a car vs. having to build one in house. This isn't even about which engine is better, it's strictly about the resources available and Audi has this in spades over BMW and it's not even close. This point/argument is stupid.
3. Who's cheapening their interiors? Mercedes is the only one that I can say has the best interiors in terms of quality. But this is subjective. All 3 marques have their high's and low's.
4. Innovative? What, the i8 and i3 aren't innovative? Who else is mass producing their own CFRP and planning on using it extensively throughout their lineup?
Nothing you stated or pointed out proves anything. It's just things you (the enthusiast) dislike about BMW but you don't see that all 3 German marques are more or less the same now. You can't say one is better than the other.
Let me ask you something. Which marque(s) are part of a bigger auto group? Not BMW.
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1. Pointing out that the S3 likes to get its tail out is me saying that they're moving in an ideal direction: BMW is busy pumping fake sound into its interior while Audi is busy making their cars more fun.
2. The Audi RS5 is what I had in mind when I said that. Yes, AMG is downsizing - I'm not denying that. (The e90/e92/e93 M3 is out of production before you bring that up.)
3. BMW is cheapening their interiors. I thought that my F30 loaner was going to break when I touched those air vents! Everything feels hollow and without much attention to detail. Even the newer 6s and 7s feel somewhat normal in interior quality.
4. Yes, the i3 and i8 are innovative, and I can see reducing the weight of the mainstream vehicles as a product of the i3 and i8, but I'm speaking about simple aspects on a mainstream scale. Look at the new S550. Cameras that scan the road for imperfections, completely LED, scented air, the design, heated door panels and armrests, etc. Those types of moves aren't coming from BMW.
My mission was not to prove anything, just to put BMW into perspective from my observations and opinions.