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      11-03-2013, 08:20 AM   #300
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Originally Posted by pikcachu View Post
Yes I have... http://www.burgertuning.com/N55_Stage2_Jb4.html
and 60hp+ the stock 300hp is nowhere near the 420hp and new M4 makes...
Well, I'm talking about the Stage 3 on an N54 which gives you close to 100+ hp at the crank. http://www.burgertuning.com/jb4_pnp_...nce_tuner.html

And if you read my previous post, I admitted that the HP gains falls a bit short but you get much more torque.

So yeah, my argument still stands about the power.

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but it would be much easier for people to just re-tune a detuned M4 engine than getting an an I4 make 420hp

Also a 335 doesn't have same type of M suspension, brakes etc...
I also addressed this. When has BMW cared about what tuners can do to their cars? BMW doesn't decide on the lineup of their cars because what can be done once a owner gets their hands on the car and decides to start modifying.

Besides, you are making my point about what I've been saying about the M2 all along. The gap between an M2 and the M3/4 would be fairly small to get the M2 over the 2-series that exists now. By having to put a smaller engine in the car to make it "different" enough just goes to show that maybe the BMW lineup is getting a tad saturated. To me, that feels like BMW is trying to force the issue.

With that said, I still think BMW and M can make an M2 different enough from the M3/4 to keep an I6 in it. That's why they get paid the big bucks.
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